YOUR SHOWER IS MORE TOXIC THAN TAP WATER — CHANGE THIS!
Your water might look clean, but it could still be a daily source of hidden chemical exposure.
Dr Daniel Pompa sits down with Kenneth Guoin, Founder/President at Ophora Water Technologies, LLC, to break down what most people miss about drinking water and whole home exposure. It is not just what you drink. It is also what you inhale in showers, steam, and bathing, where chlorine by-products can enter the body in ways people rarely consider.
The conversation explores reverse osmosis, fluoride reduction, remineralization, and why purified water can feel flat without rebuilding minerals. Ken also explains multi-stage filtration systems that use carbon, RO, UV, ozone, and additional treatment steps designed to improve water quality at the source.
They also cover hydrogen water, oxygenated water, bottled water storage, and the risks of plastics and microplastics in everyday hydration. Practical takeaways focus on reducing exposure and making smarter water choices at home.
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CHAPTERS
1:18 - Meet The Water Engineer Behind Ophora
3:20 - From Hot Tubs To Chlorine Free Pools
7:10 - Shower Exposure And Chloramine Concerns
15:55 - Municipal Water Reports And Custom Filtration
18:02 - Fluoride, Pharmaceuticals, And Why RO Matters
19:50 - Water Restructuring With Vortex And Minerals
25:20 - UV, Ozone, And Stable Oxygen Levels
35:00 - Oxygen In Air, Cities, And Health Context
39:00 - Building Water Systems That Do Not Break
45:10 - Cost Options And Making RO Water Taste Better
58:10 - Oxygen, Mitochondria, And Soaking Benefits
1:08:10 - Hydrogen Water Claims Put To The Test
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Chlorine And Tap Water Warnings
SPEAKER_01
Chlorine is incredibly dangerous.
Dr Pompa
People do not realize, I mean, the Germans invented during World War I as a gas. The number one thing people can do is they should, in fact, my goodness gracious, drink clean water.
SPEAKER_01
80% of the pollution we come in contact with every day is from bathing and showering. The water that's coming out of the taps is literally poison.
Dr Pompa
Humans were meant to drink oxygenated water because that's stream water, etc. But we weren't meant to drink hydrogenated water.
SPEAKER_01
Breast cancer is epidemic today. When you're drinking it out of plastic and it's RO water, you're drinking all those chemicals that's being pulled out of the water. Women are storing in the breast tissue.
Dr Pompa
It's a big issue. A typical morning shower brings 11 glasses of chlorinated water, meaning the equivalence of how much chlorine ends up in your blood. Do you care about the water you drink? Well, you should, because it's one of the number one ways that we ruin our health, or we can regain our health. And it's the number one thing when people say, Dr. Bumpa, what is the one thing I can do for my family to improve our health? Get good water. Well, I have looked long and hard for the best water in the world, and I found it because of my next guest.
Meeting The Water Engineer Behind Ophora
Dr Pompa
All right, Ken Goyan. You guys pronounced it with me because I said on the show, I'm like, man, I'm gonna mispronounce your name. You guys said say Hawaiian and you'll come up with Gawaiyan. You nailed it. Um, but you have the best water in the world, Ophora.
SPEAKER_01
It it it in my opinion, it is the best water in the world. And it's uh quite special for a lot of reasons.
Dr Pompa
And I have your unit in my house, and everyone that comes to my house, they say, What is this water? They taste it and they cannot believe it. And when I tasted your water for the first time, um, I think someone sent me a bottle of it, and then I then I it was like later down, I saw you on Ben's uh thing, and I was like, Okay, that's that water I had. Yeah. And my wife was the one who said, Why can't our water taste like this?
SPEAKER_01
Right, right.
Dr Pompa
She did. Well, and I said, Well, it can't. I just have to buy a new unit.
SPEAKER_01
Well, so no bottled water is sustainable, and that's what's kind of unique about OFORA is not only do we manufacture and uh bottle this water, we also sell the systems that make the water.
Dr Pompa
So yeah, meaning people could literally just buy the water and you ship it to them.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, so we we have a huge description service. We ship this water all over the world. Yeah, and um uh eventually the the great thing about what OFORA does is eventually you want to make your own water at home. Yeah. Because you know, it's it it's expensive to ship. It's it's it has to be.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, no, exactly. And I I'm so into it. I I mean I have hot water. My daughter is like, okay, I want a unit. I wrote everyone that tastes my water, they want the water. So we're gonna tell you how to do that.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah. Um, and you have whole house units, you have stand-up units, you have all we have a pretty large, it drives drives my uh management team crazy, but we have a pretty large uh array of different products that we have.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, and I'll tell you, your your customer service is fantastic. We really try here, yeah. I mean, they you really are.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
Dr Pompa
Yeah. So um Jordan out there if you're listening.
SPEAKER_01
Well, we and our business doubled last year. So if you can imagine, you know, trying to stay on top of things with that kind of growth, it's been a challenge.
From Hot Tubs To Chlorine-Free Pools
Dr Pompa
I want to I want you're gonna tell them why this water is so unique. Uh, but I want to talk about where it all started because you actually started, I think, tell me if I'm wrong, swimming pools and things like that. Uh, you know, um and you're more of an engineer than anything.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I'm really an inventor. Um yeah, it's interesting. I uh I'm from Michigan. Um and uh we won't hold that against you. Yeah. Yeah. So uh um but um I wanted to go to college. I didn't have the money to do that without I I needed the GI Bill. So I I joined the Marine Corps. Uh once I got out of the Marine Corps, I still had I was I did get the GI bill.
Dr Pompa
My father was a Marine fought in World War II. Okay.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, 10 for five. Yeah. Uh so uh when I got out, I still needed, I had to I I did get the GI Bill and I was going to college, um, but at the same time I needed an income. And um I actually uh found a company out of San Luis Obispo, California that was uh manufacturing wooden hot tubs. That was kind of a craze during the 70s. Wooden hot tubs. Wooden hot tubs made out of redwood. Sounds corrosive, but I didn't know. Yeah, so um and they and they go outside. So uh I I I I called this company San Luis Obispo. I purchased a redwood hot tub, and then they came back and said, well, if you buy three of them, you can be a dealer. So I bought three, and before I could get one done, my neighbor bought it. And next thing I know is what was the benefit of the redwood tub? Uh well red redwood is it it doesn't rot, it won't rot. So yeah, I have wooden tubs that I installed in Michigan 30, 40 years ago that are still out there performing. So you've seen these when you're going down a field in California or something, you'll see these tanks that are uh uh that they used to use to irrigate with, and they're all made out of redwood. Wow. So uh anyway, I uh I started buying them by the truckload, then the boxcar load, and I was selling, I was the world's largest uh uh installer and marketer of redwood hot tubs. And the doctors at U of M came to me and said, you know, we love our tub, but you know, we don't we're we're we're tired of soaking in chlorine. What can you do? And I'm an inventor by heart, I've been an inventor all my life. Yeah, and uh Edison was my hero. And uh so um yeah, I figured out a way. I I cracked the code on figuring out a way to purify water without chlorine.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, chlorine-free. So yeah, because I mean that's that's not as easy as people think. Meaning, oh, the pool's salt water, okay, but it's like it there's still turns to chlorine and there's still problems with uh contaminants.
SPEAKER_01
It it's kind of a it's it's really people have been misled because basically uh they put salt uh in the pool and then they have a chlorine generator that converts the salt to chlorine. Yeah. So you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. And chlorine is incredibly dangerous. People do not realize. I mean, it was invented during World War II, the Germans invented it during World War I as a gas. And um, you know, all the skin cancer that's happening today, a lot of people, it's all being attributed to the sun, but that's not the case, really, because you know, uh and so people are staying out of the sun, and as you know, I mean the sun screen is a very good thing.
Dr Pompa
We have more skin cancer, it's going up every year. People are using more sunscreen, staying out of the sun more than ever. Yeah, which is and why are melanoma rates uh even higher in non-like tropical sun areas than you know, and people in that spend more time in um offices uh not outside have higher melanoma. What?
SPEAKER_01
It it's crazy. So, you know, and cancer showing up where the sun doesn't shine. So so I took a shower this morning.
Shower Exposure And Chloramine Concerns
SPEAKER_01
Um, and um so right now I'm wearing a shell of chlorine on my skin that interacts with your organic matter and it forms a very, very carcinogenic material called chloramine. And that's really what's causing a lot of the cancer, the skin issues with cancer. Uh and um so chlorine's dangerous. Uh that's the first thing that we have to remove from the water. And uh we we uh we crack that code.
Dr Pompa
How come we're not hearing more about that, what you just said? That you know, people, I mean, I bet you 90% of my audience watching right now is still showering in chlorine because they don't have some type of whole house system, right? And and therefore they're putting chloramine on their skin or developing.
SPEAKER_01
You're wearing a shell of chlorine on your skin. Well, I don't shower in it, so I'm not.
Dr Pompa
Okay, well, lucky you all are lucky enough to have that.
SPEAKER_01
You know, and it's an easy fix, really. Uh we have a very robust shower filter uh that um you can install, and that will be so they don't have to uh because whole house systems are expensive.
Dr Pompa
Expensive our whole house. So you have something that actually can go on that.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah. So we've got a great under-the-counter drinking water system, uh, and then combine that with the shower, and you've got chlorine eliminated from your life. Yeah. And uh so it's and actually chlorine is relatively easy to remove from the water, interestingly enough.
Dr Pompa
Harder than flu easier than fluoride.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, it just takes a good carbon media to re to remove the chlorine. Yeah, fluoride is a little tricky.
Dr Pompa
Fluoride, you're gonna need RO.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, that's that's right. So chlorine is relatively easy to remove, and the first thing I recommend to people is you want to put a shower filter on, at the very minimum. Yeah, and and and get that out of your life. Um, so you know, we're all about organic water. And uh uh you know, I crack the code for c chlorine-free swimming pools uh by combining um uh uh 33% food-grade hydrogen peroxide, which is i in of itself is a miracle drug. If the pharmaceutical companies could figure out a way to make money with it, yeah, uh they would. It's just a commodity product. Uh the only byproduct of uh food grade 33% hydrogen peroxide is pure oxygen. So uh so with the right combination of UV sterilization, 33% food grade hydrogen peroxide, and um uh infiltration, you can totally remove uh chlorine from source water.
Dr Pompa
Do you sell systems for swimming pools and spas? Yes.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, we have a we have a too big of a product line. Yeah, yeah. So uh I got my start basically purifying pool water and then moved into drinking water and uh and you know, most of our systems today are when I see uh young kids in chlorinated pools, I I cringe.
Dr Pompa
And worse yet, a hot tub. Yeah. I I don't go in hot tubs because you know I know. I mean, people are like freaked out about the bacteria. No, I did a video on Instagram saying I hate these things, you know, because your pores are wide open.
SPEAKER_01
Well, it's not only that, think about think about all the few the fume the few the the fumes you're bringing.
Dr Pompa
You can bring lungs right in your blood.
SPEAKER_01
So i I I it it really slays me when all these spas have these steam rooms, and women love steam rooms, by the way. The guys seem to like the saunas, women love steam rooms. That's true. This the water they're making that steam with is municipal water. I know. So they're going in these steam rooms inhaling that deep into their lungs. Now, that's horrible. I know. And they call themselves health spas. Yeah, and that's a tragedy. Yeah, I don't go near those things.
Dr Pompa
They they invariably always get mold too because they don't take care of them, right? So it's like, you know, you're getting mold, chlorine, probably fluoride, all kinds of other chemicals, probably inhaling drugs because if you're city water, there's drugs in the water.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah. That's the issue. I mean, uh, water, you know, I if you fix the water, you'd fix a lot of health issues today. And that's that's a big issue.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, you know, and what I said in the opening of the show is exactly right. I'm always asked, like, what is the number one thing we can do? And I'm always like, well, you know, are you drinking clean water? Yeah. And the in nine times out of ten, the answer is no. No, and listen, I I go to lunch or dinner, I'm at the seminars, and I'm with uh, you know, all the influencers that most people know in our industry, right? And we're at dinner, and two things happen that always makes me step back. I watch them drink the tap water and I go, like, no, like, no, no, excuse me. I want I want bottled water and I don't want it out of plastic, I want it out of glass, right? It's like, so I I'm amazed at people, I won't take a sip of tap water. I'm not doing that, right? Yeah, not doing that. No. And then there's another subject, a seed oil conversation. I'm not going to ingest rancid oils because those fats are also what is driving some of the skin cancer. 100%. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
Dr Pompa
But anyway, so yeah, the number one thing people can do is they should, in fact, my goodness gracious, drink clean water.
SPEAKER_01
Drink and bathe in clean water. 80% of the issues today, the 80% of the pollution we come in contact with every day is from bathing and showering. The water that's coming out of the taps is literally poison. It is. Yeah. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news with that, but that's the simple random.
Dr Pompa
I did another Instagram video and I talked about what um a typical morning shower brings 11 glasses of chlorinated water. Yeah. Meaning the equivalence of how much chlorine ends up in your blood. Yeah. So if you sit there, sat there and drank 11 glasses of chlorinated water, because some of you say, Well, I don't do that. Well, if you're showering, you're the equivalent is your morning shower. You just drank 11 glasses of chlorinated water, and that's what's in your blood.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, 100%. Yeah. So uh I tell people, you want to improve your health, quit drinking whatever you're drinking and drink, start drinking pure water. That's it. I mean, there's people that don't even drink water. I mean, I see these kids with these energy drinks. That's all they're drinking. Now think of the ramifications of that time.
Dr Pompa
Well, yeah, because the that energy drink is made from city water. But it I mean, it might be run through a carbon filter only because of uh, you know, uh they're filtering the end of the factory. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01
But what they're putting in it is poisonous.
Dr Pompa
Sugar chemicals you can't even read if you can't read it don't be.
SPEAKER_01
I mean, God bless them. They they've you know they they're making a lot of money. But uh, yeah, yeah.
Dr Pompa
It's a horrible thing. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, what what we're drinking and showering and bathing in is is driving a lot of the gut problems that we're seeing today. The amount of pesticides in the water, the amount of you know, fluoride, chlorine, everything. Um, it's in and I mentioned briefly the amount of drugs that they find in the water.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
Dr Pompa
So you are, you know, taking your neighbor's drugs. Yes. Not really, but technically, you know, yeah, you're getting a lot of estrogen exposures, etc.
SPEAKER_01
Well, I tell people, you know, I'm there women are bathing in a my testosterone and I'm breathing, I'm bathing in their estrogen. So, you know, I don't know what kind of problems those can cause, but yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's an issue.
Dr Pompa
And again, when you're showering, you know, not just soaking in it, you're breathing the the moisture. It's going into your lungs, into your blood.
SPEAKER_01
Deep deep into your lungs, yeah.
Dr Pompa
Of course, you're absorbing some of it as well. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
Yes, for sure.
Dr Pompa
Okay, so you developed these um these systems for spas, swimming pools, right? That was your first thing.
SPEAKER_01
Yes.
Dr Pompa
Right. And um I it's amazing, you know, that didn't make you a multi-billionaire. I I'm sitting here thinking, you just solved such a huge problem in humanity. And yet, you know, well, chlor chlor.
SPEAKER_01
So here's the here's the thing. Chlorine is a commodity product, it's a buck a gallon. Uh I mean, so it it's the go-to because of how how inexpensive it is. And it isn't effective in terms of killing germs. And you know, the reason you won't even drink a swallow of tap water is just that one swallow, that chlorine is gonna kill your gut your gut biome. I mean, uh see you can't even drink a swallow of it. I mean, think about that. I mean, it just ruins your gut. Yeah. So uh so no, you have to drink you you have to drink enough water, you need to drink the right water. And uh I suggest to people if if you really want to experience what this water can do for you, is just like just for a week, don't drink anything but this water. And it's amazing how much better you will feel.
Dr Pompa
And this water's not just clean, there's some other exceptions to this water.
SPEAKER_01
We're gonna we're gonna get to that because it's it's it's it's an anomaly, it's it's really an anomaly as well.
Dr Pompa
It is, and and you know, that's why I I said, Man, I gotta have it. And my wife insisted upon it. So yeah,
Municipal Reports And Custom Filtration
Dr Pompa
yeah. And so, okay, so you you went from the swimming pool that to then how did you end up into the drinking water?
SPEAKER_01
So the doctors, U of M hospital, which were they were all young doctors, hot tubs were real hip back then. So they all had these hot tubs, and you know, I fixed their chlorine problem with the hot tubs, and they started coming to me, well, what about our drinking water? What can you do with the drinking water? And I and I started developing my first system for for drinking water. And really, uh, you know, they're pretty complicated systems and put and they need to be because the water it continues to get more and more degraded and denatured every single day. You know, we we check, we do very sophisticated uh water tests of like like if I'm gonna install a system like the system you purchase from us. Normally what we'll do is we can we can go into any city and pull up their municipal water report and see what's in the water. So when we before we came into Salt Lake City, it was before before you bought your system, you know, we we looked at the water report, what's in the water because we can custom in today's world, we can take anything out of the water as long as we know what it is we're looking at. So they have there they have filter media, you know, you've seen these big tanks, and we specifically designed the filter media to remove what's in your local water. And it's slightly different ever everywhere you go. Like, you know, Oregon's got pretty good water, but they've got some they have uh fluoride issues there there. So uh but so in today's the reality is we can move remove everything from the source water.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, and and what what are some of the biggest problems? I mean, right now, uh you know, Bobby um RFK Jr. is um he is uh I know him personally, so I always say Bobby people don't know what I'm saying. So um he has really made a charge against the fluoride fluoridation in the water, which most there's debate about it even now, right? Some people say, oh my gosh, he's going to cause cavities and kids and all these oral dental problems and blah, blah, blah. So talk about fluoride as a starting point.
Fluoride, Drugs, And Why RO Matters
SPEAKER_01
Well, you know, fluoride, you know, the here's the thing that's interesting is like in third world countries where there's no dental care and people aren't taking care of their teeth, it's not a bad idea to have some fluoride in the water. Here in the United States, people brush their teeth every day, a couple times a day. Uh, you know, w you know, that's an area that people address. So we don't need any fluoride in our water.
Dr Pompa
But it's also different the fluoride that's natural versus even what they're using is a different thing.
SPEAKER_01
That's what people don't realize. So a lot of them, you know, fluoride you know, is in the soil. So uh you know, you know, the fluoride comes and when we look at these water reports, there's fluoride in the water uh that they're not even adding fluoride in the water because it's or organic in in in the soil. So uh but um there's media that we have for fluoride that does 100% in you know, we you we start with RO. So all of our systems start with a robust reverse osmosis system.
Dr Pompa
Because RO is the only way to take drugs out of the water, at least that I'm aware of. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01
You gotta you gotta start with R RO. Yeah.
Dr Pompa
And it's the only way to really take fluoride out.
SPEAKER_01
There's some other methods, but there's other media, uh, but but it gets it gets expensive.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. And you have to replace them all the time. It's just not feasible.
SPEAKER_01
Right, exactly.
Dr Pompa
So you you actually always have I say that to people, you have to start with RO. Right. And I even say to people, look, uh, if you can't afford anything, just get an RO system at least. The problem with RO is my wife won't drink it. She doesn't like it. It's very acid. Well, and she and it does have a flavor. Like now that now that I got away from just RO, yeah, what I can taste immediately when it's RO. And I don't, I do not like it. So my wife was
Restructuring Water With Vortex And Minerals
Dr Pompa
right.
SPEAKER_01
Well, it's basically uh it does such a good job filtering out the water. It's filtering all the useful minerals and all the good stuff as well. So it's really important. And what Ophora does better than anybody is once you once you run this water through an RO system, you need to restructure that water. And when I say restructuring it, that's bringing it back to life. We you know, we vortex it, we rose it, we run it over rose quartz crystal, and we add the useful minerals back in. Okay. The water has to be restructured.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, well, let's start there because um my daughter's boyfriend said, restructure. That's what do you mean? It's H2O, it's always H2O. If you take, if it's H2O2, you know, it's like now it's not water anymore. Okay, so from a molecular structure, he has a point, but that's not what restructuring really is. Explain it.
SPEAKER_01
So again, RO water at the end of the day is dead acidic water because it's nano purified.
Dr Pompa
All needs to be H2O, but it's a very acidic.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah. All yeah. And that's why that it doesn't taste good. Doesn't taste good. No. So you have to restructure it. And by restructuring it uh energetically, we it needs to be vortexed. Water doesn't like to run in straight lines.
Dr Pompa
Right.
SPEAKER_01
So we all of our systems, all of our systems have a very sophisticated vortex around them. Um and at the same time, uh, we also add the useful minerals back in. So we vortex it.
Dr Pompa
So what is the when you're saying vortex, it's spun.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
Dr Pompa
It like a stream does. I mean, this happens naturally underground and in streams, right? Water is moving. Yeah, water. So what what is that doing to the water? It's not changing, it's still H2O. What is it doing?
SPEAKER_01
It's it's changing the molecular molecular structure of the how the H2O is positioned, right?
Dr Pompa
Right. Meaning in organic chemistry, H2O, yes, but where the their position on that structure changes. Right. Still H2O, yeah, but how the oxygens are connected, that's what you're saying. Right. Okay.
SPEAKER_01
Yes. So water, so you're gonna hear me talk about this frequently, but water in its purest form um is called the universal solvent. You've heard that before, right? So over millions of years, that's how the Grand Canyon was formed. So water in its purest form wants to absorb anything it comes in contact with. And that's how we make our water. And the part of the restructuring is you you purify that water to a certain level, it wants to pull those useful minerals back in. It wants to be vortexed, it wants to become alive again. And that's what we're able to do with our water. So uh vortexing over uh vortexing running the water over a rose quartz crystal, believe it or not. Uh people think it's a little woo-woo, but it's amazing what it does for the taste.
Dr Pompa
So is that is that one of the reasons why when I taste this water, I know it's like it's it's spectacular.
SPEAKER_01
It is. It is. It's it's it's uh it's the oxygen. So really, so uh I I I I'm an I'm really an inventor. I've been an inventor all my life. Um and uh this water um you know, the first thing we had to do is nano purify it. And uh we nano purify it to a lot, we we take it down to 0.0001 microns. It's incredibly purifying. So is that happening just through the RO? Pardon me? No, we have other we have other filter media as well as RO.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, I mean, I know my system that I have of yours, yeah. I mean, there's at least seven, maybe more, because it vortexes at you know at least filtration systems in that.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. And so all of our systems uh have the first thing you have to do is pull the chlorine out. Chlorine's relatively easy to remove.
Dr Pompa
Okay, so we the first thing your system does is run it through carbon of sorts.
SPEAKER_01
And it has to, or else we destroy all the filters. Okay. So we pull that chlorine out first and then we run it through uh an RO membrane. Okay. And as you know, uh basically an RO membrane is just a really, really tightly wound uh filtration system, and uh the water pressure forces that water through that membrane. There's two real issues with with reverse osmosis.
Dr Pompa
Uh water waste.
SPEAKER_01
Water waste. Uh we've gotten that down through some unique engineering. So our systems produce less wastewater than anybody's RO. And then um uh and then you know, once we run it through the carbon, then the RO system, uh we have other medias that we also run it through. But we're big on UV too.
Dr Pompa
So the last thing that's Yeah, I see the last thing is the UV.
SPEAKER_01
UV's always last in line. And what's unique about that is like in California, we're getting, especially in LA, we're getting what they call boil alerts. I don't know if you've heard anything about that, but that's when things slip through with the municipality. The municipalities are you know, they're doing the best they can. Uh uh in the water, like I said, we test the water uh uh all every single day, three times a day when we're bottling, and it changes throughout the day. The municipal water actually changes throughout the day. Uh so our the UVs always last because it goes through all this nanofiltration, all this restructuring, and then one we run it over UV sterilization last in line. So if there's anything it does slip through the municipality, uh it kills it. So uh so
UV, Ozone, And Stable Oxygen Levels
SPEAKER_01
you'll see our we every every system we manufacture is our own.
Dr Pompa
Well, yeah, but um you do something else unique is my system has it's uh puts ozone in the water twice a day.
SPEAKER_01
Yes.
Dr Pompa
And that ozone adds oxygen in the water, which you're saying that's probably the biggest reason, one of the biggest reasons why um it makes it lighter on the tongue. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and and um, but that would also kill stuff. I mean, that also is has a septic 100%.
SPEAKER_01
And then uh, you know, so this water, uh so uh we actually bought this what your machine makes it up to 10 to 13 ppm of stable and bound oxygen. This is bottled at 40 parts per million.
Dr Pompa
Oh wow. So my water at home has 10 parts per million, which is by the way, you told me uh that's even more than a stream. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I'm still getting more oxygen. And we'll talk about the benefits of that because there's a lot of benefits of it. There's a lot of benefits.
SPEAKER_01
But this has 40 parts? 40 parts from it. Oh my gosh. That's why it's so crazy good. Yeah. Enlighten the tongue. So we've there's a big uh awards ceremony each year in Berkeley Springs. Um, and uh they test waters from all over the world. We we've we've won best tasting water three years in a row.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
SPEAKER_01
It does not surprise me at all. So, and it's just it so when you're drinking this water because it is ananopure, you're for the first time in your life, you're actually hydrating on a cellular level. Uh, as you probably noticed, you you can drink a ton of this water. So for the first time, it's really penetrating your cells. And you would think you'd be peeing a lot more than you are. That's the key. So it's going that's the key. So what's happening, like our brains, if you dehydrate them, are about the size of a walnut. So our our brains are the first place water goes is to your brain. That's why, you know, you you've you know, uh, if if you're tired or or you know, you you get brain fog, uh, it's a lot of times you need to drink some water. Yeah, yeah.
Dr Pompa
So by the way, I I'll put anyone to the desk. So um maybe this is unique for a 60-year-old like myself, but if I drink a regular glass of water before bed, a whole glass, yeah, I get up and pee.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
Dr Pompa
Okay. If if I don't, yeah, I don't get up and pee. So that's the unique part. Um at least I'm told that's unique for a 60-year-old. But here's the good thing. I can drink a whole glass of this water before bed.
SPEAKER_01
I did it last night. That's right.
Dr Pompa
And I don't get up and pee. What does that tell me?
SPEAKER_01
Your body is pulling that water deep inside.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, that's what it tells me. So it's like I I've noted that. I've even done it. I've even just played with it. It's like, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna see if that's the case, and it's the case.
SPEAKER_01
It is the case. Yeah. So uh and it just it's so, so important. And uh, you know, I I wish parents would like I said, I see kids that they're drinking nothing but energy drinks, and they're drinking everything but water.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_01
And you know, so the other thing, water in its purest form absorbs anything it comes in contact with. So when you're consuming this water, you're flushing toxins out of your body. Yeah, and you know better than anybody what the toxins are doing to our health. So there's things we can do and there's things we can't do. But one of the things we can do is hydrate with nano-pure water that's gonna flush all those toxins out of your body. Uh, I'm in my mid-I'm in my I'm 75 years old, and uh I run circles around the kids at the office. And yeah, you know, but I I drink almost a gallon of this water every day, and I also soak in it because there's two ways we've engineered to absorb oxygen. One is drinking the water.
Dr Pompa
See, I'm I'm missing the soaking aspect of it.
SPEAKER_01
No, I've I've been trying to get you over to our office to try try this because it's a game changer.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, I will I'll come. I mean, I will go. Um, how far are you from Beverly Hills? That's where I'm going next.
SPEAKER_01
Oh, we're close. Yeah, we're an hour and a half down the road. So you need to come out. All right, I'll try to go. Soak in our tub.
Dr Pompa
So I want to soak in it.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah. So um, so I'm really well hydrated, probably better, more hydrated than most people. Um, but this water, uh, it's it's it's an anomaly. We we've actually seen cases where crystalline starts growing in these bottles. What does that mean? So the the purity of the water is pulling the minerals out of solution and forming crystals in our bottles.
Dr Pompa
No way.
SPEAKER_01
I've got I I have some videos of this. It's yeah, remarkable. Yeah, that's amazing. Uh so in, you know, again, it's uh a lot of times it's too woo-woo for people, but I mean, water is alive. It's every bit of alive as the trees and the I use the word woo-woo too to describe these things.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, but you know I'm always like, listen, I know it sounds woo, but it's real. Because a lot of woo woo is not real to me. I'm a scientist. A lot of it is not real. Exactly. So I what I when I say it's woo-woo, but it's real, that's what I mean.
SPEAKER_01
Yes. It's like the rose quartz crystal. We use that in all of our systems. It uh it's just amazing the energy that it uh imparts into the water.
Dr Pompa
So you feel that the rose quartz adds something unique. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01
You can measure the energy that's coming off that rose quartz. I mean, the other thing that we do that most people don't realize is we also uh have large sound generators that create uh 528 hertz, and we actually integrate uh uh sound therapy into our bottle.
Dr Pompa
528. That was you know, uh David when he played for Saul. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
528 is the So it's a healing frequency, and I have to tell you, uh, we integrated that several years ago, and what a difference it's made. That's when the crystalline started showing up in the bottles. Uh and that's I wish I would have brought a bottle to show you. It's just amazing to see this crystal growing in them.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, I mean, look, energy sounds woo-woo, but it's energy is not woo-woo. This this table has a certain energy, right? When you measure a calorie in a banana, that's an energy. Uh right. You know, I mean, everyone gives off an energy. Pastor Zig, I just interviewed him. He was like, you know, Dan, you just give off an energy, right? Humans give off energy. Things give rocks have different energy from other rocks, hence your point with the rose crystal. Everything's alive, yeah. Yeah. Okay, so the rose crystal brings the water to to life in a very different way. And the sound frequency. And then you were to you were talking, um, you were going in another place. Maybe it was the oxygen added with the ozone. Um, that I for I forget where you were going. Well, we got off on a table.
SPEAKER_01
Well, what's interesting, so water in its purest form absorbs anything contact, right? That's what you're saying. Good job. So how how where this the reason there's 40 parts per million of stable and bound oxygen is that uh because of the purity of the water, it's pulling the oxygen deep into the water molecule.
Dr Pompa
Uh so if you look at water under our So it wait, uh so if if it's H1 hydrogen, two oxygens, H2Os, okay. How do you pull more oxygen into that?
SPEAKER_01
So we have an i so we actually again Is that a good question? It is a good question. It's a great question. Uh, and thank you for asking it because and I'll show this to you when you that's why you gotta come and visit us. So uh the equipment that makes this water is really sophisticated. Uh it's one of the reasons it's as expensive as it is. Um but uh yeah, so you gotta start with a purity, and and when it waters that pure, it pulls that oxygen into the 40 ppm of oxygen into the water molecule.
Dr Pompa
But what we actually like right now if you have a configuration of H2O, two, you know, two oxygen, two or one hydrogen, right?
SPEAKER_01
Two hydrogen, one oxygen.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, one oxygen. I said backwards, yeah. I'm dyslexic, so I I do everything. Me too. We'll be H2O does. We'll have to help each other. Me too. Oh, not H2O2. Yeah. Anyway, so um that that configuration that can still hold other molecules, meaning it it can hold more oxygen.
SPEAKER_01
So our oxygen fits in between the water molecules. Okay, that's what I'm saying. That's what's happening. So right now we're breathing 20.
Dr Pompa
So you have H2O molecule here, one here, one here, and then in here is uh oxygen. Yes, okay.
SPEAKER_01
So it fits in in yeah, in in between the water molecules. So right now we're breathing 21% oxygen. The rest is pretty much nitrogen and some other inert gases. Um it used to be uh back in the prehistoric days, the oxygen levels were much higher. Uh right now we're breathing 21%. Back then it was tw third third 35%.
Dr Pompa
And by the way, it's the same at top of Mount Everest. People don't understand that. They go, oh, there's less oxygen up here. No, no, you're you're getting less oxygen because the pressure's lower.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah. Yeah. So uh so back in the prehistoric days, things grew things grew really big. Yes.
Dr Pompa
Trees, ferns, uh that's a fact, and that's why they say people live longer, everything lived longer. Yes.
SPEAKER_01
I mean, back in the biblical days, I mean, they're they're talking about people living eight years ago.
Dr Pompa
Oh, yeah, 800, 900 years. Yes. So absolutely.
SPEAKER_01
And again, those higher, first of all, there was no Wi-Fi. You think think about all this. The toxic loads, nothing. Yeah, exactly. There's no no pollutants and these these extraordinarily high oxygen levels. So the dinosaurs, everything grew, everything was big back then.
Dr Pompa
Yep.
SPEAKER_01
So we're at 21% oxygen, and it's it's it's you know, where does oxygen come from? That's the other thing I ask people. We were taught in school comes from the plants in the trees, right? So in reality, uh 80% of our oxygen comes from the plant life in the oceans, the other 20% from rainforest. And of course, those are both under attack. So
Oxygen In Air, Cities, And Health Context
SPEAKER_01
uh, so you go to the bowels of LA and your oxygen levels are even going to be lower. Yeah, I imagine.
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
So uh, so you know, again, drinking drinking pure water and also breathing pure air is is is really important.
Dr Pompa
I am as big on air as when you come to my house, you'll see my air systems, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
So yeah, I'm big on air too.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, I have ERVs where I'm bringing fresh air in. Yeah. You know, it's not just about filtration. Bringing fresh air in is actually a big deal. It's kind of like your water to me. It's huge.
SPEAKER_01
So, you know, we have a large population in California that lives in Bakersfield, and the air quality there's just terrible. And, you know, consequently, uh the cancer rates are off the hook there. Of course. So uh I'm blessed to live in Santa Barbara. We have some of the best air quality naturally. Yeah, because we're right on the coast. We're right on the coast. Exactly.
Dr Pompa
Don't you have that constant wind right there?
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah.
Dr Pompa
So uh so I'm always looking at it uh we have up in, I live, I don't live down here, I live up in Park City.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah.
Dr Pompa
We have great air quality. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
Well, it's it's really important.
Dr Pompa
Salt Lake is actually one of the worst in the winter. Um, because of uh what happens is you have inversion.
SPEAKER_01
Right.
Dr Pompa
You know, you get cold down here, the heat rises and makes a trap, and then the pollution just sits there.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah. So uh so yeah, uh I mean I want to live a long, healthy life. And and uh um we have a really astute medical board of advisors, and I'm talking to you about that. Uh and you know, one of our doctors, Dr. Michael Gallitzer, he's uh is he's in LA, and uh you know, he's he's the real deal. He ran the use he ran the emergency room at UCLA for 15 years and then went kind of completely holistic. He doesn't write scripts, but he's a huge advocate of this water, and he actually subscribe, you know, pr prescribes it to people for for their for their ailments. But uh yeah, it the nano purity, the 40 parts per million, um, the sound frequency. Yeah, I mean we just do a lot to this water.
Dr Pompa
I know, yeah, exactly. And then you know, the the ozone in my machine is what adds the the extra oxygen, correct? So um ozone being O3, yeah, you get a single that breaks off, and now it's in between the Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
So the only byproduct is pure oxygen.
Dr Pompa
And uh that was the Yeah, because I don't taste the ozone in the water. No, no, it breaks into oxygen immediately.
SPEAKER_01
Immediately, yeah. And um, that was the only way I could figure out how to do it in a smaller machine. I mean, when you come to our office and you see the machinery that I can't wait, that's the big systems, it's big as this room. Yeah. So uh yeah.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, I know you sell you do sell a whole house unit.
SPEAKER_01
We do.
Dr Pompa
That is pretty amazing. I mean, because to run all uh whole house water through um RO is like that's a feed in and sell. Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_01
So uh yeah, it takes a massive RO membrane to do that. Well, we actually have a small container. I'll I don't know if you've ever seen pictures of our that big ultra system, but it's all self-contained. I saw pictures. It's all self-contained, it's totally self-contained. In fact, in fact, all of our products are all pretty much self-contained. We crate them and ship them anywhere in the world. And I'm a nut about stuff not breaking.
Dr Pompa
So dude, I am a nut about stuff not breaking. I I I I hate stuff breaking. So well, when you play with what when you deal with water breaking, see now you end up with mold and problems. And that's uh that's an absolute my my my assistant's laughing, right? Because she knows I fear do I fear water? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love water and fear at all the same.
SPEAKER_01
Well, you know, the truth of the matter is uh we don't have any plumbers in here, right? Uh if plumbers, so the plumbers drive the water improvement industry. And if plumbers ran the world, we'd all still be on horseback. I mean, that's the sad reality. Because their business model is they put something in and they want to come back and service it. We're exactly the opposite. We want to install a whole home system, we don't ever
Building Systems That Do Not Break
SPEAKER_01
want to see it again.
Dr Pompa
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
So all of our systems are designed for very, very low once a year in and longer. You know, I don't know how many people do you have in your family at the house.
Dr Pompa
Well, I yeah, that depends. My wife and I only now we have five kids, but they're all grown up and gone, right?
SPEAKER_01
Right.
Dr Pompa
Um, but that said, we always have more than us in the house. Like right now we have yeah, we have four in the house.
SPEAKER_01
Uh okay. So you you your chain your filters should probably be changed once once a year, but you can go as long as two years with the with the and literally Well, I still I have a whole house unit too, so I could probably easily go two years.
Dr Pompa
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah. So that that's right. So um, and that's that's what I'm all about is I want to I wanna our our systems are are cost more than other people's systems, but on average, most water improvement uh systems end up in a landfill within three to five years. Our systems, I design them for a lifetime of use. So uh if they do break or for a pump goes out, I don't like there's nothing Chinese, nothing against the Chinese, but there's nothing Chinese in my system. I appreciate that. It's a hundred percent American made. Uh the pumps we use actually are from Germany, they're called Grunfoss pumps. I've got I've got I have Grunfoss pumps that have been running out there for 20 years. Nice. The same pump I could buy from China for like $300. The German pumps $1,500, but they never break. And if they do break, you can rebuild them. If it was a Chinese pump, I would literally be replacing it in a year and a half if you're lucky. Yeah. And then you can't fix them, you just have to dump them in the landfill. So uh so I'm crazy about stuff not breaking. I'm also I just don't want things going to the landfill. You know, you when we grew up, you fixed everything. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean it's true. If a fan quit working, you're you know, your dad would fix it. Yeah, I mean, that's just how it was. Yeah, yeah. In today's world, people don't do anything for themselves anymore.
Dr Pompa
That's true. I mean, they rebuilt their engines. I mean, it's a transmission regular, everybody fixed that. That's right.
SPEAKER_01
They didn't take it to the shop, they didn't take it down to the dealership. They just pulled in the garage and figured it out. Figured it out. Of course, they were a little simpler. Things were built simple, right?
Dr Pompa
Now you have electronics and technology, and so if they break, you're done. Yeah, forget about it.
SPEAKER_01
So I'm really proud of the fact that the systems that we do engineer and and build and ship out, uh, and we ship them all over the world, uh, don't break.
Dr Pompa
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
I mean, they were literally don't break. So yeah, you can purchase this water, uh, or you can purchase the systems that make the water. And uh uh the key is all the other beverages out there, if you can try and limit limit those and stick with pure water, you're just gonna be healthier.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, there's no doubt. If people wanted to get this actually delivered, right? Yeah. Um I mean a lot of the expense ends up in the the the delivery, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, but you said you have a lot of people do it. How much is it? And like like I don't even know how much do people deliver?
SPEAKER_01
Like so we we ship so we ship out a massive amount of uh these are 750s. We also bottle half gallons. I don't know if you've ever seen our half gallons. Our half gallons are actually our best-selling size. Okay, yeah. Uh but but you know, glass is expensive uh and it and it's heavy. And uh we it took us years to develop a packaging system where we don't we don't have any breakage. Breakage is not the issue.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, your packaging's really good.
SPEAKER_01
It's pretty crazy. It's about $12 worth of packaging.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, yeah. So if you want a case of water, I mean, how much is a case?
SPEAKER_01
So uh the half gallons are the way to, in my opinion, the way to buy the water. You get four half gallons in a case, it's a hundred bucks a case. Um and you know what I tell people if if that's more than you want to spend, the the water is so pure and so energized, you you can literally use like Mountain Valley to cut it uh and actually stretch that out a little bit.
Dr Pompa
Why don't you do um and again, I I think people should get the system.
SPEAKER_01
You know, I mean it's well eventually people no bottled water is sustainable. Eventually you want the system. You want to make your own water. Right.
Dr Pompa
But I I know people order it like crazy, you know.
SPEAKER_01
We we ship out a massive amount of oil.
Dr Pompa
I know. I it's because people love it, notice a difference in their own.
SPEAKER_01
You know, you we can't get the high oxygen levels out of the out of the what we call point of use systems, a smaller system. No way. The big ultra system, whole whole home system we make. That's 40 ppm.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, that's amazing.
SPEAKER_01
So uh, you know, and for you know, we we have a we have a lot of celebrities. When I grow up, I'm gonna get that. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna have one someday. Yeah, no, no question about it.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, no question about it. Yeah, a lot of the celebrities have it, right?
SPEAKER_01
So yeah, so yeah, I don't know why people live listen to celebrities, but uh God bless them because they're out promoting our water.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, that's good. Yeah, you do you do now have a lot of uh a lot of people promoting the water. Yeah. I mean, when you just taste the difference, uh I mean, obviously, you know, I'm doing it for my health. Absolutely. My wife was like, she tasted. She's like, yeah, our water, it sucks compared to this. We got to get this.
SPEAKER_01
Well, that's what happens. People, once they drink this water, they can't go back. Yeah. That's true. I traveled here last night, so I'm drinking out of I'm drinking store-bought water. It and I can't hardly stand the taste of it.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, no, yeah.
SPEAKER_01
So like when I think it's not doing it, it's hot, it's it's wet. I mean, it's it's wet, but it's not it's not pure. It's not a big thing.
Dr Pompa
Well, I'll give you a bottle before you say I'm seriously. Give him his water back. That's hilarious.
SPEAKER_01
So hey, you know, the other thing that's interesting is you can literally travel through TSA with our water.
Dr Pompa
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
Did you did you know that?
Dr Pompa
No, well, you can say it's medically great, yeah.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, it says medical grade on it right now, but uh yeah, people are taking our water through TSA, which is yeah, so yeah, dang, that's right.
Dr Pompa
Exactly. That is cool. I didn't think about that, but it does say medically great on here somewhere. Yeah. Okay. So it's kind of they kind of listen to you anyway if you say that, right? Yeah. But you know, yeah, yeah. I think it has to be sealed still. Yeah, it has to be sealed.
SPEAKER_01
They open it up and check it out. And yeah. In LA, they know our water now.
Dr Pompa
So for our water, yeah, medically great. Yeah. Bring it through. So that's awesome, man. Yeah.
Cost Options And Making RO Taste Better
Dr Pompa
So the um, you know, when you're dealing with uh a system for your house, right? You know, what's the cheapest price point someone can get, right?
SPEAKER_01
Just so we our best selling system is our our under-the-counter uh system. We call it the under-counter bio renew. It is an incredible system. It gives exact same purity as here. Um it's not oxygenated, uh, but it gives you uh unlimited amounts of really, really great tasting pure water. Um and uh that's just you know, I'm not from you know, I'm so far away from the pricing in some ways. I'm not even sure what you're selling for now.
Dr Pompa
But okay, but I mean it's not I mean I'm I'm sure it's more than your regular RO unit.
SPEAKER_01
Uh yeah, but again, so keep this in mind. So you can you can go to Costco and I and I tell people, you know, if you if you if you're on a really limited budget, you can go to Costco and buy an RO system for 300 bucks. That's true, yeah. And it's gonna give you pure water. It doesn't taste very good. Doesn't taste very good. But what you want to do, and this is what so most people, most people that are health conscious have an RO system under their sink. Yeah. Um, and and what I it's a real simple, easy fix to improve the taste of the water. And what you need to be doing with that water is adding liquid minerals to it every day. That's real important because it it's really dead acidic water. Yeah. RO water is so pure, it takes all the minerals out.
Dr Pompa
So, you know, I I'm not a believer there's a lot of um high alkaline waters sold today. I'm I'm not a believer in these nine, nine point five, these alkaline water, because our gut is acidic. No. I'm I'm a believer in keeping it what nature does. Spring water ranges anywhere, uh it depends, uh obviously, but let's just say eight to eight point five. Am I correct on that?
SPEAKER_01
Our sweet spot is eight point five. Okay, all right.
Dr Pompa
So eight point five. That's what you find in nature. So my thing is is let's just duplicate that to a good pH.
SPEAKER_01
And and and that's a good point. So that's really, you know, being an inventor, all I'm doing is in mimicking nature. Yeah. And that's where I that's my go-to, is like what's happening out there. Yeah.
Dr Pompa
Uh yeah, because a lot of these companies, though, they're they're changing the pH through um, you know, uh device electrolysis. Electrolysis.
SPEAKER_01
And I don't want my water electrically charged.
Dr Pompa
No way, man. If that might kill it more, you know, but you're doing it through natural minerals, mineralization like it happens in Australia.
SPEAKER_01
Yes, yeah, exactly. So we have the uh we've engineered these uh there's ceramic balls that we actually one of the cartridges that's in your system uh is these ceramic balls that are impregnated with m really high quality minerals. And um so uh so all of our systems are the water again, the water's restructured, but if you're gonna have an RO system, if you have one right now, a really good solution is to go out and just buy some good minerals and make sure you put a squirt of minerals in the in the water and it proves the taste.
Dr Pompa
And uh yeah, because the RO is it's not good taste. No. And then like I said, I mean I I think obviously the uh the benefits of the oxygen, higher levels of oxygen in the water. What are some of the actually proven health benefits of drinking higher oxygenated water?
SPEAKER_01
Well, one of the things that's really interesting, and and I don't know if you've noticed this, but this water slays your appetite. Uh and and I don't know why. I mean there's a lot of things that I don't understand. I keep telling people this water is an anomaly, uh, you know, growing crystalline in it. Uh and um yeah, so it it's it's it's just highly unique in that in that manner.
Dr Pompa
With the the o higher oxygen levels, um obviously you're going to absorb that oxygen in your gut to some degree.
SPEAKER_01
Right. So it speeds up your so here here back to the weight loss. So it also it speeds up your mitochondria. Uh um, which um you know, I'm 75 years old, I have the same amount of energy. I I I I swear to God that I that I had when I'm I forget. I still think I'm a kid. I mean literally. So this water is highly energizing. Uh also, as you know better than anybody, most disease is hypoxic, you know, uh particularly cancer. Cancer, cancer can't grow, live, or survive in a highly oxygenated environment. Right. So, you know, it's really if so that's what this is all about is elevating your oxygen.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. By drinking it, is there scientific proof that you're actually raising your oxygen?
SPEAKER_01
Yes, and we're doing uh we're implementing tests right now with Dr. Michael Galls. Or uh we're actually putting a whole protocol together so we can actually prove this. Uh but you know what I tell people, honestly, if you drink this water, you're gonna notice you have less of an appetite, you're gonna notice you have more energy, less brain fog, and you just feel better. And uh, but again, I drink a gallon of this water every day, and I also soak in it every day.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, and then I asked you the question, right, by soaking in it, is there proof that you actually absorb some of the oxygen via?
SPEAKER_01
Here's the crazy thing. Believe it or not, what we've discovered is you absorb more oxygen soaking in it than you drink drinking it.
unknown
Wow.
Dr Pompa
Well, why?
SPEAKER_01
Because if so, when you come out to our facility, I'll show you with the light, when you look into our hot tub, because the water is it's the same, it's the same water as the drinking water in our in our hot tub and coal plunge. It's that pure. But um if when you look down into the water, you see billions of nanobubbles. And those are your skin is your largest organ and it absorbs that oxygen. So my oxygen saturation, some I'm 75. I run 99 to 100% all the time. In fact, I have a video, I had two knee replacements because I was a runner. Uh um and you know, they had the big screen up there. My oxygen levels 100. They got me, they're they're they're they got me cut up. I'm laying on the table. My oxygen's 100. Doctors are going over there tapping on the screen.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01
I tried to explain to them, and you know, they they they they didn't want to hear it. Yeah, but uh, so my oxygen levels run all the time, 99 to 100%. So, what does that mean?
Dr Pompa
I've got I've got to get I need a hot tub with your unit. No chlorine, of course, because you have the filter unit.
SPEAKER_01
I'm coming over to to do a site check into this. Yeah, exactly. We're doing a site check, right? Tonight we're gonna we're gonna get you soaking in this water.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, I gotta soak in this stuff.
SPEAKER_01
So drinking, it's powerful, but when you combine soaking and drinking, it takes it over the top. Oh my god. Takes it over the top. So so I don't shower. Sure.
Dr Pompa
And so you even do this with cold plunges and hot tubs.
SPEAKER_01
In cold plunges, we can actually hyperoxyate the water up to 50 and 60 ppm because of the cold water. Water loves to be cold. Yeah. And the oxygen, uh, we can get the uh levels. So in 10 minutes, so here's the thing. So um you you're asking about proof. And you know, I remember when hyperbaric was pretty woo-woo. Do you do you remember that? I mean, I mean 30 years ago. Oh yeah. No, you know, what do you climb into this machine, you know? Yeah, yeah. Well, as you know now know, I mean, more and more they're prescribing it for everything. Uh but again, you know, for hyperbaric, and uh I I have I'm in a in I'm big into hyperbaric, and uh you you have to what everybody's getting wrong about hyperbaric. I have a hyperbaric in my house. Oh, do you? Okay. You've it's it's a hyper flexible system. Okay. So you can get one, you get one and a half per uh yeah, you and in the rigid ones you get 1.3 is what I get. Okay, that's yeah, I mean, yeah. So you get uh in rigid ones, you get it's up to two. Uh but most people aren't staying in them long enough. You need to stay in them at least 90 minutes to get the benefit. Uh so and and you need to do it frequently. So you can absorb more oxygen sitting in a cold plunge for 10 minutes than you can in 90 minutes in the hyperbaric. And uh and if you look at the benefits with hyperbaric, it's this it's it's the same benefits, only only more because you're absorbing more oxygen when you're sitting in it and drinking it.
Dr Pompa
So now what about comparing it to a hot tub? You're not gonna get as high levels of oxygen, but your pores are more open.
SPEAKER_01
So the hot tub, you get 30 ppm. It's a lot. Yeah. So our hot tub is it we keep it at 103. You know, I was told that you know you're never gonna be able to hyperoxyate hot water, and uh I've proved them wrong. 30 ppm. 30 ppm is significant. So in 20 minutes, we've we've in the testing that we've done, and we've done some sophisticated testing, in 20 minutes your body will absorb all the oxygen it can hold. It'll last in your body 14 hours. I don't know, I don't know anybody with oxygen levels as high as mine or consistently as high as mine. So, what does that mean? Uh I don't get sick. Yeah, I haven't a cold or flu. They're talking about the flu now. I could I could care less. Yeah, yeah. I don't get it. I don't uh and you know, I and I hope that applies to the cancer, you know. As you age, you know, it gets scary. You turn 80 years old, and you know, if you live long, it's almost if you live long enough, you're gonna get cancer, right? And uh I don't want that.
Dr Pompa
Especially with all the chemical exposure today, right? I mean, it's like if you live long enough, you bioaccumulate, right? It's like but to your point, you know, cancer really doesn't grow around oxygen. No, you know, that was Otto Warburg.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, a lot, a lot of disease. I mean, most disease is hypoxic.
Dr Pompa
So uh, you know and the problem is the older we get, the the again, you know, we lose circulation and therefore you're losing oxygen. Right. So if you can keep your oxygen levels up, right, right.
SPEAKER_01
So, you know, I'm I'm just I want I want people to be as healthy and feel as good as I do. And you know, there's really three things, and uh you you know this better than anybody, you know, hydrating pop properly, movement, and eating clean. Yeah, if those three things would you you wouldn't have to see your doctor anymore, right? Yep. Think about that. And people aren't moving enough. Yeah, I mean, people I'm whore when I go to the airport, I travel a lot. When I go to the airport and I'm looking at all these people, and I mean, oh my God, we got an obesity problem in this country.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, yeah, especially in this country.
SPEAKER_01
You know, and you know, if you think about it, I mean, we grew up with three meals a day. We don't need to eat three meals a day anymore. That was when you were working on the farm all day long.
Dr Pompa
Uh yeah, I mean, I if I have a feast day, I eat three meals. Um, it's hard for me to eat three meals. Yeah, I can't eat three meals. Yeah, it's like it's effort. Yeah, I I really when I do, I always think to myself, gosh, uh how do people do this? Like, you know, it's like we're gonna, I'm gonna supposed to eat again. You know, it's like it's a real force.
SPEAKER_01
Well, and that's you know, you look at the people and you can see, you know, they're they're not moving enough, they're eating too much, but movement is next to our water, I I attribute movement is the most important thing.
Dr Pompa
Yeah. Well, you know, there was a lot of movement or not a lot of reasons to move, you know, in older times, right? It's like today there's a lot of reasons not to move, you know, just people sitting there doing nothing. Yeah, biblical times. I mean, Christ walked, I mean they walked everywhere for God's sake. Yeah. So now we actually have to like make up stuff. We have to I have to lift weights in gyms because I don't work the same, right?
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, when I was growing up, I mean, yeah, you didn't need to go to the gym. We were just yeah, my dad worked his ass off, right? We yeah.
Dr Pompa
So, okay, yeah. So bathing and this uh stuff. Oh my gosh. Bathing is so do you sell like the hot tubs with the filters and the whole thing with the bigger? We we have the most sophisticated. Matter of fact, we tell people that where to get it because people are already at probably asking.
SPEAKER_01
Well, fora.com uh um is is our website, uh, but we have a array of uh of hyperogenated products. Uh our hot tubs, hot tubs are amazing.
Dr Pompa
And afora.com, you can find the hot tubs. Yeah. And there's how you spell it O P H O R A Water.com. Aphorawater.com. Yeah. Yeah, and there's all your selection of products. I have the stand-up unit. You've got to that's a that's I love that it's a great unit. It does hot water. Yeah. Does it and then I don't take room like most auras under the counter. Right. Um, it's it's so cool. I'm gonna get my pants.
SPEAKER_01
It's the only system, point of use system that we market that actually produces oxygen. Yeah, it's not easy making the oxygen. Yeah, I know, right?
Dr Pompa
So when I hear that thing click on in the morning, man, I know it's like yeah, I kind of always want to drink it right away. That's right. Yeah. Right, right. You know, it's it's beautiful. But um, yeah. So the um the question I have is right now it's in vogue is
Oxygen, Mitochondria, And Soaking Benefits
Dr Pompa
hydrogen.
unknown
Yes.
Dr Pompa
Hydrogen water is very in vogue. And so how do we compare that? You haven't put hydrogen in your water yet.
SPEAKER_01
You can't. And so the oxygen would would devour the hydrogen. So um, you know, it's interesting. The hydrogen water comes and goes. It's um it's kind of a fad right now. Uh so these machines that make hydrogen, these bottles, don't ever buy those. Uh they end up in a landfill. All of them end up in a landfill. I don't like landfills. Uh the best way to take hydrogen is the tablets. And you drop one of your I it's important. It's what about breathing it? Now they have the breathers, they say that's better. I don't know about that.
Dr Pompa
Okay.
SPEAKER_01
It's just it's it's a fad right now. Okay. And uh it it it comes and goes. So it's uh hydrogen is very antioxidant.
Dr Pompa
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
Extremely.
Dr Pompa
It works, it works more like a redox molecule. It's not really antioxidant. It's not, yeah. Right.
SPEAKER_01
So the best way that I found to take it in the most inexpensive way is forget about those little bottles that make it just by the bottle of the high uh Dr. McCullough makes a good one.
Dr Pompa
It's uh I mean there was um uh I mean there's systems now though. They run it through the RO and then they add the hydrogen to the water.
SPEAKER_01
Same thing we're doing. Yeah. So hydrogen, so oxygen is very unstable. Hydrogen's like over the top unstable.
Dr Pompa
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01
So most of the hydrogen waters that we actually test, there's no hydrogen in them. It's it's it's just too unstable.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, I mean, so you can't buy hydrogen water. Like you could never bottle this in hydrogen water.
SPEAKER_01
Well, H Factor is uh is a company that produces uh um hydrogen water.
Dr Pompa
But have you measured it? Is there actually hydrogen?
SPEAKER_01
It's pretty easy to measure. It is easy. Uh we have some pretty sophisticated equipment too. And when we measure it, most of the time we can't even get a reading. And that's true of other oxygen waters out in the marketplace. I mean, you know, this is bound and stable, the oxygen to the water. You can actually pour a glass of this, set it on your nightstand, and in the morning you're gonna have the same amount of oxygen.
Dr Pompa
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_01
And that'll last we had a woman that called us.
Dr Pompa
Even the one that I have, the machine that I have. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01
We had a woman that called us, and she uh during COVID, she bought a case of our water and she she bought it, she she bought it consistently, but she recently found a case, it was several years old, and she said, Is this still good to drink? And I said, Yeah, of course. She says, Well, does it will it have oxygen? I said, Yes. And I said, I'll tell you what, send that case back, I'll send you a new case. We because I wanted to test it. Yeah, and we opened it, it was like three years old, and there was the same amount of oxygen. No way. So the oxygen is pulled into the water molecule, it's bound and stable. I have four patents on this water, as I mentioned, and one of them is all about the purity, is what makes the water molecule pull. Same with the sound frequency. We have the sound generators on our on our stainless steel finished water tank that are impregnating the water with uh this 528 hertz, which is a game changer. Yeah, which is the best.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, it's the best. Changed uh changed Saul's life. Anyway, yeah. Um yeah, so if if we uh if we put hydrogen uh hydrogen in after it, it would neutralize the oxygen, though. So you couldn't add hydrogen.
SPEAKER_01
Hydrogen neutral neutral.
Dr Pompa
The oxygen would neutralize the hydrogen except the hydrogen. So but yeah, so you couldn't add hydrogen to this. So that's why you're saying if you want to benefit of hydrogen, take a pill from a tablet.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah. Um, yeah, because putting it in after this would wouldn't Well, we could we could I could make hydro I I could make hydrogen water just in the exact same way that we're making uh oxygenated water. Uh we just use it, we'd have to buy a CO2 a tank uh of of uh CO2 and then we can we can make it.
Dr Pompa
But uh I I just they they make the hydrogen through an electrolys electrolysis process, right? Where they you know that's what the systems like so when it runs to the RO, then it goes through that.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah. And um But again at the end of the at the end of the line when you measure the measure it, there's just not that much hydrogen.
Dr Pompa
But I mean if you're drinking it right away, you're getting hydrogen. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01
Uh the most effective way is the tablets. Because you you put you you drink them, you put them in and you drink it while it's still fizzing.
Dr Pompa
Yeah, exactly. But if again, if you added that to this, you're gonna neutralize you're gonna you're neutralizing one. Yeah, the oxygen's taking up the uh oxygen. That that's hydrogen. So um the I guess people are going to ask me this. Well, which is better? You know, do I want the oxygen or do I want the hydrogen?
SPEAKER_01
Well, of course, I'm gonna say oxygen, but uh and for a lot of reasons. Uh really it it's simple when we if you consider the fact that if you can elevate your oxygen levels, you're not gonna get sick. I mean, it it's it's it's that powerful. I mean, um uh, you know, I any as most people know their oxygen saturation. Uh everybody's had their oxygen saturation.
Dr Pompa
It's like when you go to the doctor or hospital, they put that on there. Yeah. Yeah, they'll take your blood pressure and they put that thing on your finger. That's what they're looking for.
SPEAKER_01
Right. Yeah. And anything above 95% saturation means you're healthy. Really good. And each point above that is significant. Uh, if you're below 95%, you know, that's when you're you're you're gonna have issues. Or you you already have issues if you're below 95. Uh, but a a really great indicator of your overall health is your oxygen saturation, uh, because disease can't grow, thrive, or survive in a highly oxygenated environment. So it's way more powerful than hydrogen. I mean, hydrogen water, I'm I'm I'm I'm not against hydrogen. Yeah, no, it sounds that way. Yeah.
Dr Pompa
But you're saying, hey, if you're gonna do it, take some pills sometime through the day and just get your hydrogen.
SPEAKER_01
No, you you you want a water that penetrates your cells, so you're hydrating at a cellular level, and uh you want a water that's gonna be energizing. Uh, this water amps up your mitochondria, uh which amps up your energy throughout the day, and um and you're truly hydrate hydrating on a cellular level.
Dr Pompa
So uh which is more hydrating, the hydrogen water or the higher oxygen water. Hydrogen for sure. Exactly. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. So I I think what I hear you saying is daily drink the high oxygenated water. Yeah. Daily, you know, meaning like that's what you're drinking all the time. Right. And then if you have something that makes hydrogen or the pills that make hydrogen, great. Yeah. You can do that if you want. I I do it every day. I take a hydrogen tablet every day. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But again, this is what you want every day. Because drinking hydrogen water every day, your body can only utilize so much. You're just peeing out. Yeah, that's what I mean. Right. That's why people are saying, how many glasses, you know, should you drink? It's like, well, you know, it's and I'm gonna be honest with you, I I don't notice anything when I drink hydrogen water. It's because my microbiome is good and I make plenty of hydrogen. Right. Right. You know, because humans were not we're humans were meant to drink oxygenated water because that's stream water. Right, but we weren't meant to drink hydrogenated water.
SPEAKER_01
No.
Dr Pompa
Yeah. I mean, we're meant to have a lot of hydrogen because our microbiome makes it.
SPEAKER_01
Am I right on this thing? You are right.
Dr Pompa
And again, uh, you know, it's just um yeah, it's a lot of it's just marketing and it it's And what I found is people that don't have a good microbiome, when they drink hydrogen water, they notice a difference.
SPEAKER_02
Yeah.
Dr Pompa
Because they did lack hydrogen, because their microbiome wasn't making a lot. Right. And they do. They go, Oh my gosh, like I really felt a difference. I've never felt that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So again, not knocking hydrogen. I'm just saying that my body was producing what it needed.
SPEAKER_01
Yes. Yeah. So again, I I I'm all about mimicking nature and uh the hydrogen. you know you you you were never drinking hydrogen water. Yeah.
Dr Pompa
That's kind of my point. Now I'm not saying people can't benefit from it. No. I'm not saying even I wouldn't benefit from a little more at times, you know, time I take it every day.
SPEAKER_01
I take a tab every day. Exactly. Yeah, first thing in the morning. Yeah. There you go.
Dr Pompa
Yeah. Yeah. But the the the oxygenation from the water. And again, I I I mean it's more than the oxygen. I mean obviously it's the nano purification process. It's the sound frequency. Yeah and it's all the other frequencies and the energy that the the water holds.
SPEAKER_01
I'm always and I'm always looking for ways to improve it. Yeah that's what I love about it. And I'm an inventor and I just lay in bed at night thinking about what can I do.
Dr Pompa
Yeah. I know that's that's awesome.
SPEAKER_01
Because you know I'm it's you know this is kind of my last hurrah and my my goal is to get this uh you know again what most people have not soaked in this water.
Dr Pompa
Yeah I can't and I can't tell you what a game.
SPEAKER_01
So first of all you've never in your entire life have soaked in water this pure think about that. There's no lakes or you know you know to so when you're sitting in this water. You sent me a case I'm gonna I'm just gonna go home and dump up my bathtub. Well we have we have a lot of celebrities uh the the Kardashians who aren't necessarily my favorite people but uh uh you know they have video they're showing videos all the time of washing their hair with this with our with our with our water.
Dr Pompa
So uh yeah exactly so we post them but uh yeah hey I I would I I would I would take that uh you know absolutely take that publicity all day long you have to get mark uh Wahlberg um I I have to get Jenny McCarthy who I'm friends with uh on this water I've been trying to get to then it'll lead to Mark because you know I've been trying to get to Mark because he he's he's Donnie she's married to Donnie Wahlberg and yeah they're great people yeah I think he had a water company for a while uh uh Mark did but uh yeah it's uh once you try it you want more yeah man and uh and then you want to integrate soaking so I can't wait did I miss anything did I did I is there a topic that I need to bring that's important um well again I when I'm out talking uh I'm I'm
Hydrogen Water Claims Put To Test
Dr Pompa
all about health and and wellness and uh I just encourage people to cut back on the other things that you're drinking um and drink more pure water uh and and and if you have the opportunity drink a four of water but the one thing that I want to really the my last thing that I really want to hit home is I've been a huge advocate of not drinking on a plastic bottle of water.
Plastic Bottles, Microplastics, And Closing
SPEAKER_01
Yeah me too and this is the thing so uh so if you go to whole so listen this is important. So if you go to Whole Foods you look at that water aisle all that water is reverse osmosis water. It's all made by copackers there's nothing really different other than pH yeah uh and and again uh this high pH water is absurd and ridiculous I agree and it it can actually harm you women have a lot of problems with yeast infections and so this 9.5 is again it's kind of a yeah it's just it's just it's a fad yeah your gut's meant to be you know obviously more putting something that alkaline in there is not good. So here's the thing so when you and I know why people drink out of plastic bottle of water it really all comes down to convenience. But the problem is so all that water is RO water. We know our RO water is very pure water and so what happens like particular take the Costco water which is one of the best selling bottled waters Costco in those really flimsy plastics. So you know by the time you get that water it's probably sad in those cases at least six months and and then you throw it in the back of your car and drive around with it in the hot so water in its purest form absorbs anything it comes in contact with it's literally sucking the toxins out of that plastic. Women breast cancer is epidemic today and um you know so when you're drinking out of plastic and it's RO water, you're drinking all those chemicals that's being pulled out of the water and that's being stored women are stored in their breast tissue it's a big issue. So I would recommend if whether you're drinking it doesn't matter what what water you buy it just buy it in glass if if you're gonna be pretty you got to get out people have got to get away from this plastic bottle of water.
Dr Pompa
Absolutely I mean think think of the toxins in in in that in that plastic yeah and it's it's it's part of the it's it's measurable uh you know I mean all of the chemicals in plastic end up in the water because it is the universal solvent. Yeah and um and then of course that we're able to measure these nanoplastics and microplastics that are in there. Yeah and it's it's a lot.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah and no nanoplastics in this water we've done sophisticated testing. So this is truly you can't buy a pure water.
Dr Pompa
You know I mean this I someone just sent me recently um it was a study where they looked at some of the bottled waters had higher plastics um than the plastic bottles. I didn't understand that did you see that glass? Yeah and they said it was because of the the packaging or so the way the lids work and this the friction or so I don't I didn't even understand that.
SPEAKER_01
That doesn't make any sense that's what I said.
Dr Pompa
I've never I have not seen that I said maybe it's because they're running it through uh our like the RO systems that they're using or so I I have no idea uh but it was like the oddest thing because I was like well that you know why would the glass bottle we have very sophisticated testing equipment and we test uh when we're bottling we test our water three times a day while we're bottling but we test everybody's water yeah and that's what like the hydrogen water we've tested all the so there there were other bottled water H factors the only one that's still around but uh yeah yeah well there you go give them the uh website one more time because I know people want some of this good stuff.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah so Ophora O-P-H O-R-A-Water dot com. There you go um and a lot of great information on our site.
Dr Pompa
Yeah man the best and the best water. So uh remember the best thing you can do start right now with your family is change the water you drink and you might as well make it the best tasting nutritious water in the world too. And that's what Ophora water is. So Ken thank you for being here. Thank you share the podcast people need to change your water. All right all right man thanks bud thank you absolutely